Find cheap flights from Des Moines to Vermont
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|July||Best time to beat the crowds with an average 2% drop in price.|
|October||Most popular time to fly with an average 9% increase in price.|
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- Morning departure is around 48% more expensive than an evening flight, on average*.
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Scores according to KAYAK customer reviews
Pros: "Everything was amazing"
Cons: "Nothing really."
Pros: "The crew on both legs of our trip were nice and accommodating."
Pros: "The flight was comfortable"
Cons: "It got delayed multiple times."
Cons: "Broken plane. Why not take better care?"
Cons: "Flight cancelled with no reasonable alternative. Ended up driving."
Cons: "Add A Display Board For When Cabin Sections Are Boarding"
Pros: "Flight cancelled"
Cons: "Flight not cancelled"
Cons: "Better accommodation for handicap passengers."
Pros: "The crew was nice, and they served plenty of drinks. They even give a free light meal on the JFK-LAX flight. Decent in-flight entertainment options and free WiFi for use with WhatsApp and iMessage only."
Cons: "There wasn't nearly enough legroom. The plane was an old 767; it would have been nice to have a power outlet too."
Pros: "Friendly crew."
Cons: "Slow boarding."
Cons: "More room."
Cons: "Leg room was lacking."
Pros: "súper comfy and got a seat upgrade due to my status so i looove delta. always on time and super friendly staff awesome.!!!"
Cons: "No WiFi kg was an old plane and the stranger next to me was 6’4” so pretty uncomfortable"
Pros: "The food and the treatment"
Pros: "Preboarded and all went smooth and quick"
Pros: "On time/ early arrival!"
Cons: "Most bring on 2 large carry ons slowing down boarding an de- planeing."
Pros: "Very comfortable seating!"
Cons: "The landing was a bit rough. Lol"
Pros: "Short and easy"
Pros: "Not much"
Cons: "Seats very uncomfortable no room to move"
Pros: "Crew were helpful and pleasant"
Cons: "Seating was uncomfortable, cabin was cold and no blankets available, food was just ok, plane had lots of empty seats yet everyone was squeezed into 3 in a row making it uncomfortable, no updates from captain or crew as to where we were in the flight....."
Pros: "Super friendly flight crew."
Pros: "Great service"
Cons: "No complain"
Pros: "Staff and equipment"
Cons: "Early to arrive but gate not ready so we lost our edge"
Cons: "They cancelled my ticket and did not inform me. Horrible exlefywith JustFly.com Beware of this organization"
Pros: "Flight was late leaving JFK. I paid extra for Comfort Plus and had the most uncomfortable seat ever. My back ached during and after the flight. Absolutely the worst seat ever that I have had flying. While it was a short flight we were supposed to get serviced during the flight, but there was no cabin service unless you were in 1st class. So much for the perks of Comfort Plus as there were none. Not even a glass of water. Wow! When we landed late obviously because we left late we were late and there was no ground crew to get our plane to the gate so we sat for over 1/2 hour on the taxi way waiting for ground crew to be available for us to get to the gate. To add insult of injury when we did get to go to the gate there was no gate available for use so we had to deplane in the rain down the emergency stairs. They said that if you had a problem with the steep stairs that they would make other accommodations. Probably would have been another delay so we all carefully went down the steep slippery stairs. I doubt that the stairs met any OHSA or safety requirements except for emergency issues. They were wet and slippery. This was the absolute worst trip that I have taken with Delta. It will seriously influence my future trip decisions."
Cons: "Not being on time. Not delivering service stated. Sitting on a taxi way for extra time. Having to disembark down steep slippery stairs, basically an emergency exit. This trip was late from start to finish."
Pros: "The crew did the best they could under the circumstances."
Cons: "The flight was scheduled for 7:45 pm. Due to the storm the day before, my flight out of Miami was cancelled and I was told that the flight out of W Palm Beach was my only option. I paid $150 for an Uber at 4 pm. At 6:37, I got an email with news of a two hour delay. I would’ve appreciated an earlier notice. But much worse was the boarding experience. As half the passengers had boarded, someone announced that we had to have everyone boarded and seated in 5 minutes, or else the crew would time out, and we’d have to stay in WPalm. This set off a frenzy, with seated passengers yelling at the people boarding to hurry!! I was told by the pilot while exiting in LGA, that we made it by 30 seconds! It could’ve been handled so much better!"
Pros: "On time. Clean."
Pros: "I like the snacks they are not giving out on the flights. It seems that Delta is trying to make the flying experience nicer instead of more tedious and uncomfortable like many other airlines, which is appreciated."
Cons: "The flights were both operated by Delta but booked through WestJet, and the flights themselves were fine. The booking was through WestJet (found the flight on kayak which kicked me over to West Jet's site) and check in was a pain. Their code did not work for their site or Delta's, I had to FB message them both leaving and returning to ask for the correct one, and the first request took them hours to answer. I'll just book Delta next time and save myself the trouble."
Pros: "Quiet, friendly, fast and efficient. What you'd want for a flight at 6am"
Pros: "It all went very well. Arrived 20 minutes ahead of time. Wifi movies were great. Stewardesses were very efficient."
Cons: "Delay in leaving from the airport there were issues with Web checkin Crew wasnt able to give me my boarding pass for the connecting flight and kept saying going to the other counter"
Pros: "The crew was fantastic. I generally love flying Delta and find their crew to always be very professional and kind."
Cons: "As this was a smaller, regional jet, there weren't a lot of amenities. But that's fine, it's only a 40-minute flight!"
Pros: "Smooth flight."
Cons: "I have broad shoulders and there was a larger gentleman on the window seat. Being in the middle seat made for a very very cramped flight the whole way. Lots of skin to skin arm contact for much of the flight. There was no way to avoid it."
Pros: "Staff were awesome. Give them a raise."
Pros: "Pushed back early, short taxi, took off one minute after scheduled departure, smooth flight, landed a half hour before scheduled time."
Cons: "The tsa is worthless"
Pros: "Slight delay, hospitable crew"
Cons: "+25 extra bag charge"
Cons: "Was never able to get on flight. The plane lost a windshield wiper and didn't have any spare parts."
Pros: "Absolutely nothing, flight was cancelled after 6 hours stood in line for 4 hours only to be told there were no flights to get me to my destination."
Pros: "On time Clean airplane Smooth ride Friendly staff"
Pros: "smooth flight"
Cons: "I'm not sure if this staff is exhausted or just over there job, but they cow towed to a woman who made major complaints about the air conditioning and even gave her points to help her deal with the temperature. Strange. They were only gold stays and I'm only Platinum and didn't complain once. Oh well, that's delta, we all deal with their silence when we post anything that is unfair."
Pros: "Good uneven full flight"
Cons: "My flight got cancelled. Terrible customer service. My bags didn't travel with me. My vacation got screwed up."
Pros: "The check in personnel was fantastic - very helpful and friendly with a very relevant story that made me feel more relaxed. Our not so good seats were somewhat compensated by the plane staff that gave us each a full beverage can, extra pretzels, and some cookies."
Cons: "Our seats that we'd picked out seemed to get changed when we checked in and we got out in the last row, which had no window, and smelled strongly of bathroom cleaner."
Pros: "On my last 4 trips in 6 mos I've flown United, Delta, and Hawaiian, to Cancun Mexico on United Aug 2015' , to Puerto Vallarta on Delta December 2015, Hawaiian to Honolulu December 2015, and Again on Delta to Honolulu Feb 2015. Hands down Delta IS THE BEST, there nothing better then having Free movies to pass the time, from TV to HBO and SHOWTIME and Current Movies in the theaters TODAY music, games, etc even free headsets any eye cover to rest ALL FOR FREE Delta isn't so worried about charging for eveything, a happy traveler is a repeat traveler, that is DELTAS GOAL Happy repeat travelers I voiced my displeasure with Hawaiian after finding out on my Day flight over I get charged $10 for blanket n pillow and free ( bad ) meal. Then on red eye home it's free blanket and no food, I can bring my own better food, and blanket which I do, but to charge for entertainment is the worst thing ever, AND EVEN FOR SIMPLE MUSIC WAS A CHARGE, SUCH POOR SERVICE Delta hands down IS CUSTOMER SERVICE ORIENTED PERIOD DELTA DELTA DELTA I'M FOREVER YOUR HAPPY TRAVELER,"
Cons: "The snack boxs are kinda unappealing, I bought both and they were jost OK, But that's fine I can bring food simply enough and would have but I was running late, Happy traveler"
Cons: "Delay after delay, then missed connection."
Pros: "Miserable all around experience"
Cons: "The flight delay was not reported correctly until 30 minutes before expected departure. The baggage carousel stopped running after already being more then a hour late. No members present to rectify. Absolutely terrible trip"
Cons: "No food"
Pros: "The crew was rude"
Cons: "Nothing evething is ok"
Pros: "The crew was incredibly attentive and helpful."
Pros: "It was a small jet but the first class section was extremely nice."
Cons: "Small jets have limited overhead space and most roller bags have to be gate checked for pickup when you exit the plane. My roller bag is small to fit under a seat, and it fit in the overhead."
Pros: "I made it safely"
Cons: "Delayed twice, had to circle at destination, gate wasn’t ready."
Pros: "Boarding, departure and arrival were on time"
Pros: "Whole row to myself. Greqt movie, in early and informative pro of a captain."
Pros: "Ease of boarding."
Cons: "Flight got in late and I was unable to make my connecting flight."
Pros: "Love main cabin extra"
Cons: "Just a cookie for a 3 hour flight"
Cons: "Less passengers or bigger plane means more room. Everything was perfect except for being uncomfortably cramped."
Cons: "The LegRoom and Width. Very uncomfortable. The Delay, on my return, was not the best of Communication."
Pros: "Plenty of drink passes."
Cons: "The staff was rude. Over heard gossiping about other travelers. At end of flight overhead announcement that our section of airplane using wrong bathrooms. It was rudely stated. Should have directed this instruction earlier in the flight. Very rude"
Pros: "Crew was good"
Cons: "Less gate changes"
Pros: "Everything was excellent"
Pros: "A bit more legroom than united airlines. Tvs were a plus. The service was excellent and they give you a full can of soda instead of just a dram."
Cons: "Nothing really it was a great value for the price."
Cons: "If my Chanel purse with my make up Chanel brand full bag with unopened experience makeup and purse was stolen"
Cons: "Plane flight got delayed until 6pm from 10:30am. What."
Cons: "Healthy snack options"
Cons: "2 hours delay, confused boarding process, very poor inflight service (got ignored twice)"
Pros: "The crew was amazing, considering the late flight & full plane."
Cons: "Took forever to get the bags"
Pros: "Everything was perfect"
Cons: "Baggage was not that faster but was still okay Although improvements will be great"
Pros: "Would fly again- irritated at how does a flight manage to get overbooked"
Cons: "Flight was 3 seats overbooked, they had to wait until 3 people willingly took a later flight. Like a game of chicken between 100 people."
Cons: "All flights should include WiFi, and or entertainment, and better snack options. Flights out of and to Burlington are very expensive!"
Pros: "The flight attendants, the service,, the movies, the food, the flight were great, the pilot was very smooth, the plane was very clean"
Cons: "The boarding took forever, including because my wife was picked for extra security search... for an american citizen who lives in miami ?... Inside the plane during the whole flight was freezing Paying for suitcases and changing or selecting seats??? .. really?"
Pros: "They rerouted me so I at least salvaged some of my trip."
Cons: "They rerouted me for no reason making me miss my reunion."
Cons: "Bought 2 tickets but seats weren’t together poor service"
Pros: "Despite numerous delays, we made it to Philadelphia. We were alerted to the delays in a timely manner. We were also treated to a snack cart and cupcakes to celebrate the first day of direct flights."
Cons: "A long delay. Patience is everything and the staff and crew were very friendly."
Pros: "Staff and Entertainment"
Cons: "Back row, but someone has to sit there :)"
Cons: "Requested a cup of hot tea during beverage service. Received a cup with the tea bag, sugar and creamer, and was told that they would return with the hot water. They completed service and I had yet to get the water. Reminded the flight attendant twice more that I was still waiting for the water before they finally brought it."
Cons: "Canceled flight. Moved us to another flight IN ANOTHER CITY. Changed our second reschedule flight gate from one end of the airport to the other. NONE of the walkways worked. Total unorganized mess - this airline is run like idiots are running it! Very challenging as I have CHF."
Pros: "The flight attendant was super super nice and helpful"
Cons: "Had to rush to catch this connecting flight. At boarding time, which we just made, the previous flight had just landed and people starting to deplane. All we would have wanted was an accurate announcement versus an unfriendly feeling from the gate agent"
Pros: "Great food, professional conduct"
Cons: "Couldn't control window tint after we left California"
Pros: "They were awesome, continued to stop and ask if we needed anything. Refilled my wine without me asking when it was 1/2 full and I was watching a move. Great experience on their 767"
Pros: "Great flight on time for a change! Landing was flawless on the way back although delayed a few minutes"
Cons: "Mosquitos in Cuba!"
Pros: "Great choices of movies and the system was good"
Cons: "the food was awful and the crew seemed stressed out and not flexible at all."
Cons: "2 hours late. Kept moving the boarding time by 10min"
Pros: "The crew was nice and we had no issues during the flight. Seating issue (below) was fixed by agent (although we only were allowed to interact with a human because the self check-in didn't work."
Cons: "During online check-in we were seated separately, but given the option to remedy this for a mere $200. I remember a time not long ago when sitting together was a given, now, like all things, it is a privilege for those with means."
Pros: "all the experience"
Pros: "Economy comfort seating was nice but overpriced. Not sure its worth the $150 ish i paid. American even seems to charge for aisle seating as a premium."
Cons: "Most of the flight attendents acted likenthey wished they were somewhere else. Tired of there jobs."
Pros: "Flights were on time and staff all were smiling and kind."
Cons: "Liked everything!!"
Pros: "Flight on time"
Pros: "Flight on time"
Pros: "Fares were great"
Cons: "No update for upcoming travel arrangements"
Pros: "The crew was friendly, energetic, educational and very helpful"
Cons: "Des moines airplanes seem to be the left overs. Old and outdated."
Pros: "Again just a small jumper, can't expect much, but a day late due to AA"
Cons: "Back home just 5 days out and back, just 2 days of flights, 3 flights late or missed because of AA. fly anything but American Airlines."
Pros: "Everything about the flight seemed fast. From the boarding process to the landing process. It was a very fast flight. Much faster than Southwest Airlines."
Cons: "It was a 6 am flight and the crew looked like it was a 6 am flight. No smiles. No energy. They looked like they didn't like their job. Maybe they needed coffee."
Pros: "Flight left right on time and arrived to the destination early - which was great because i had an extremely short layover"
Pros: "Every member of the crew was really helpful, especially since I had a cello with me. They helped me with tips on how the airport and their boarding system worked, and I'm sure they are just as good with families and people carrying heavier luggage."
Pros: "Decent room on the flight. No food or drink."
Pros: "Everybody was so friendly"
Pros: "No delays"
Cons: "Everyone was super nice and gelpful"
Pros: "Quick and easy. Nice crew."
Pros: "I was treated wonderfully and had an amazing times."
Cons: "Everything was great."
Pros: "Gate staff were courteous."
Cons: "I had about an hour layover in which I had time to use the restroom and buy lunch. I did these things, then went to wait at the assigned gate. Meanwhile, unbeknownst to me, they changed the departing gate for my connecting flight. The concourse area is so crowded and noisy, and announcements are only heard in the immediate gate are, that, though I was sitting only one gate over, I did not hear the boarding calls and missed my flight. I sat in Newark airport for six hours (which included a maintenance problem, gate change and 1 more hour delay) until the departure of the next flight to Burlington."
Cons: "Attitude of gate agent, crews. Boarding penalizes all but highest level and they've demoted me since the merger and erased my 30 year history with UAL. Watched them mishandle a paraplegic passenger until another passenger swapped seats. Last choice for me."
Cons: "Again, United changed my original departure time from Burlington, VT to San Diego (via Chicago) from 10 am to 6:30 am. This meant an overnight stay in Burlington and loss of sleep and my free breakfast. In addition, I was stuck with 4+ hr layover in Chicago. The Chicago terminal was a mass of swarming people. Horrible!"
Cons: "ABSOLUTELY ZERO EMPATHY WHEN 2 MINUTES LATE TO GATE... Was actually mean and let 2 airline crew on while we stood there... plane there... our bags on... especially when United needs a better profile!!"
Cons: "Tight seats, full flights"
Pros: "The crew worked quickly to get me another flight when I was not gonna make my connection flight."
Cons: "The plane malfunctioned and their time management of telling us when it was gonna be fixed was poor."
Cons: "Crowded, overbooked, made me check my carry on which made me miss my train. Took 4 flights to get to my final destination. Small seats, uncomfortable... list goes on and on"
Pros: "At least I made it"
Cons: "Flight attendant for United 426 to Chicago was rude, flight delayed and they weren't very helpful"
Cons: "Lack of updates"
Pros: "This flight was canceled due to weather. We rented a car and drove back. During the drive we experienced very brief periods of drizzle rain. The weather radar showed no signs of bad weather in the area. I am all for safety but Is light rain really a valid reason for cancelling a flight, or was this more about a flight that was not fully booked?"
Pros: "Everything's on time"
Cons: "The snack"
Pros: "The flight itself was uneventful and went as expected."
Cons: "We were instructed to hand in our hand luggage before boarding the plane which meant we had to wait in a long one after the flight to get the luggage back. HOWEVER, the plane had plenty of overhead luggage room to accommodate our luggage. We were told by the cabin staff that the gate personnel don't always check what size plane it is before requiring everyone to hand in their luggage."
Pros: "All luggage had to go in the belly of the plane. Made boarding way faster. Clean aircraft with pretty comfortable seats."
Pros: "Great short flight"
Pros: "Flight on time, no delays or problems"
Cons: "Seating for midgets"
Cons: "About two hours before my flight, it was canceled after previously making an airplane switch the night before after checking in online. The I received an email while I was on the way to the airport saying that the airplane that I was going to fly out on was canceled due to airplane maintenance. While I am happy they didn't fly the plane while needing maintenance, they should have planned ahead and known of the maintenance or had a backup ready to go. Obviously it must have been something they just found, but in the big picture of things. You have to pay an way to much for a flight as it is. They should have to solve their own issues to honor their part of the contract. We (as customers) can't cancel a flight with out penalties. Why shouldn't they have to do the same?"
Cons: "Lack of room in seats and no legroom."
Pros: "Nothing I can think of"
Cons: "Delays with limited information about why or when it might be resolve. Plane extremely uncomfortable."
Pros: "On the trip from Des Moines to Houston, timeliness of flight was great. The boarding went smooth and was done quickly. The crew were friendly and courteous. Overall the first half of the trip was fine."
Cons: "I was extremely disappointed in the condition of my luggage when I picked it up plane side. The wheel was broke off and all the pockets had been unzipped and it appeared they had been rummaged through. I had to drag my bag through the terminal. I spoke with 3 individuals with United who referred me onto the next and each unwilling as the previous to help. I myself am in customer service and would never treat my customers the way I was treated by the employees representing your Airline. I would go above and beyond to make the sure that the customers experience was a great one in spite of the unfotunate incident so they would return. I have never flown United before, and I will not consider your airline in the future."
Cons: "leg room and cabin temp was too high"
Cons: "I paid extra money for our seats so we cud sit together N I ended up on the front of the plane N my boyfriend clear in the back I'll never fly United again y the hell did I pay almost 25$ per seat to sit together to sit on opposite ends of the plane"
Pros: "I liked that half the plane was single seats."
Cons: "We had to detour for a medical emergency that didn't really turn out to be one so we were delayed like an hour in getting to our destination. There was no on board entertainment."
Pros: "They whole computer system went down all morning"
Cons: "I haven't made it. Their computer system was down all morning. I got a pretty inexpensive flight which was refunded. Although I can't go home, all the one way tickets are 3 times the price. Me and my 6 month old baby can't get home to his daddy."
Pros: "Crew was great!"
Cons: "They lost my bag for my entire vacation. They found it and "rushed" it to me, but it got waylaid in SFO and would have sat there had I not called them. Then they said they would deliver it to my hotel. When it arrived 4 days later, they said I could pick it up and they would not deliver it. I was 2.5 hours away. I told them to send it home, but they didn't and when I flew home 7 days later, it was still sitting in Munich!"
Pros: "Everything was great, no waits, and right on time!"
Pros: "Flight on time and arrived early"
Pros: "That the flight was on time. disenchanted flight attendants. Makes you want to not need her assistance."
Cons: "Disenchanted flight attendants. For whatever reason, it is obvious that there is unhappiness. Not flat affect, just the look of disinterest, a look that tells you I don't care. In a customer based business it is so disheartening that the very person you may have to depend on to survive is not vested in the clientele that keeps her company in business, thereby insuring future paychecks. I'd like to communicate here that it wasn't all the attendants on either flight, but enough that it was obvious to anyone who paid even casual attention. I was flying home to California, so there were two additional flights a few days before the flights home. I never had any of the same flight attendants on any of the flight. As far as my observation of the attendants, as stated above, I think that speaks volumes. I will cite an example that happened on my trip from Iowa to Denver. I need wheelchair assistance, I walk with a cane, but not able to walk any distance. I pack a light carry-on, bring my purse, jacket and cane. I was being wheeled up the passageway in a regular wheelchair, and the man pushing me stated to the on-coming crew he "would be right back to get my suitcase, couldn't take both at the same time", and added " unless one of you could roll it up?". After an embarrassing pause, a female flight attendant said "Let the flight attendant do it. Add this to the list of responsibilities that aren't really my job." I actually twisted around to look at this person, I was so stunned to hear that! She grabbed my rolling carry-on handle and the look spoke columns. I was embarrased. Thank you. Debra K. Forsythe"
Cons: "Delayed getting out of Newark due to unknown reasons, staff did not communicate with the passengers"
Cons: "Obnoxious crew, repeating the same instructions over and over. No food, no entertainment. Short flight though."
Pros: "No delays."
Cons: "No complaints."
Pros: "Everything was great and the trip was on time perfect"
Pros: "Boarding was pretty quick and staff was friendly. I was in an emergency row so I had a little extra leg room in my middle seat. Also had wifi on this flight."
Cons: "Snacks need to be updated. I prefer the good old fashion pretzels, so maybe providing an option would be better."
Cons: "I have flown with United several times and will be avoiding this airline in the future. After notification that our flight had been delayed by 3 hours, the customer service was awful. The United representatives at the gate told us they could not rebook us nor would they be able to assist us with locating a different connecting flight. We then contacted customer service by phone and were directed to connecting flights. However the connecting flights were at an airport two hours away. After being informed that we would not be able to fly out the next day from the Des Moines airport, we. Had no other choice but to rent a car to drive to the Omaha airport. We had to rent a car because they would not accommodate us by changing our return flights to match where we flying out of. This whole experience has been awful for a trip that has been booked for more than 6 months. I plan to continue to inform the public of this horrendous experience."
Cons: "The delays"
Cons: "I was flying out of De Moines, IA to DC with a layover in Chicago. I received an email stating that my flight was changed to 3pm. While the email stated the flight number it didn't state the destinations or the airport. It turns out the email was referring to the layover flight that I had in Chicago. I even called the number provided in the email to verify the change and instead of giving me information on my flights it gave me a status update of the flight at that particular time of the day (Which was the day before when I called and was not something I particularly cared about). This wound up being very bad for me because I slept in and missed my flight. I booked another flight for the next day but a very bad snowstorm hit the east coast and was unable to travel back to DC for 5 more days. I had to get a hotel room in Chicago and spend over $500 in expenses because of this error. United should be more specific when notifying its passengers of any changes by email. This messed up a lot of things for me and I'm very upset with how United handled this"
Pros: "I was satisfied with my flight..9.5"
Pros: "No delays, we were kept informed of status' of the process and we actually arrived slightly ahead of the advertised time. There were no weather or mechanical issues so the flight went off without a hitch."
Pros: "Flight was on time"
Cons: "Plane was diverted, airport we diverted to was ill-prepared for our arrival. Lack of communication of next plan."
Cons: "I am STILL stuck at the Albany, NY airport. We were supposed to arrive in Burlington, VT last night around 11 p.m. They said the wind and visibility in Burlington was bad (but 2 of the 3 flights trying to get there around that time made it. We didn't). They put us up in a hotel for the night and said we would fly out at 10:15 a.m. the next morning. They were so inefficient at the airport that I didn't get to bed until 3:30 a.m. There was no notification, but when I got to the airport, they said the flight was delayed until 2:30. This is NOT how I want to spend my Christmas vacation."