Daily cleaning, installation of cabin HEPA filters on flights from Los Angeles to Africa
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Scores according to KAYAK customer reviews
Cons: "It would have been better if the wifi was included."
Pros: "Great crew, excellent staff at the airport. Planes were nice and comfortable. Food was ok. They have an excellent price to quality ratio; you can often get great prices on some of the more popular destinations and the service is 5 stars."
Cons: "Some alcoholic drinks"
Cons: "No comments"
Cons: "Flight was a little long!"
Pros: "Crew did a great job keeping the long 11hour flight manageable!"
Cons: "Getting on and off the plane took some time, but doesn't it always? Economy class was slightly more comfortable than many other airlines, but nothing to write home about. Qatar Airways really shone in the food, the service (both onboard and off) and the entertainment. Good experience."
Pros: "The portion for LAX to Doha was fairly comfortable and crew was helpful.. they kept running out of meal options by the time they reached us mid flight .. Doha to Bengaluru portion was less classy— the TV/ remotes etc didn’t work well and overall service not as good .."
Pros: "It was like flying in a Four Seasons but better."
Cons: "Boring movie selections. 80% Marvel films."
Cons: "Great service."
Pros: "Food and leg room"
Cons: "Unorganized too shaky flight made me sick to stomach ,foods are not good service not good"
Pros: "Crew was amazing and aircraft was clean and seats comfortable!"
Cons: "I would like to have more air fresheners during the flight as there are some people who eat special food and it smells so bad in aircraft"
Pros: "The Crew was amazing, the service social excellent. The Seat were so cramp, the best sales point fort business class"
Cons: "More space for shoulder and legs. Espicially for a 11h flight"
Pros: "food ok, economy seats not too bad"
Cons: "old entertainment system. Tight connection and first flight was late, so we got bumped off our connection (they literally removed our names from the flight, even though we could've sprinted through the airport and made it if they waived the 20 minute before departure gate closure). It was an exhausting and long wait for the next flight and I did not think it was well-handled. Staying in a hotel is not a great option, because it takes 2 hours to get out of the airport, another 2 hours cushion to get back in time."
Pros: "I had a family emergency and couldn’t go. I wasn’t allowed to switch my flight or change it. Lots of money spent with nothing in return. Unfortunte."
Pros: "The facilitated transfer in Doha within twenty minutes"
Cons: "The repetition of vegetarian food menu"
Cons: "Zero customer service, absolute waste of money,. I should have read reviews before using your services"
Pros: "Service basically. For such a long haul flight they did everything they could to make it comfortable."
Cons: "They could have checked the bathrooms more often as trash bins were very full."
Pros: "Excellent overall"
Cons: "LAX boarding was chaotic I think they should announce First people with disabilities Then Business class After that board Economy class from last rows"
Pros: "boarding process was efficent"
Cons: "delayed takeoff, delays on tarmac after landing/getting to gate, overly heated plane, hot food was served cold"
Cons: "Unfortunately WiFi services was off"
Pros: "Seat next to me was empty, helping with the very cramped conditions. Great food. Movies were okay."
Cons: "Late boarding, then delayed further due to departing passenger. Delay caused me to miss my connecting flight in Doha. 5 Star Airline marketing is nonsense. Same cramped seats as any other airline. Boeing 777 is a disappointment. 787 is much better."
Pros: "Food service was good"
Cons: "Flight was delayed leaving LAX and was about an hour late to arrive at Doha. Fortunately, despite the 45 minute window for connection, I managed to get my connecting flight to Islamabad thanks to good support from ground staff in Doha"
Pros: "The wider space between all seats and the selection of the food"
Cons: "Nothing at all"
Cons: "No HE"
Pros: "The service was excellent, the hostesses were very friendly, smiling and helping. The food was tasty and delicious..."
Cons: "Flight delay by 4 hours!!"
Pros: "All around great airline. Comfortable for super long flights and completely accommodating."
Cons: "Seat number was the same but different position from one reserved online"
Pros: "Everything was fine except the flight delays"
Cons: "Flight delays"
Pros: "It was booked for my elderly parents and they were very pleased by the service they received."
Pros: "Check-in counter and gate staff were really accommodating and professional."
Cons: "Cabin crew lacked training. They skipped rows, didn’t apologize, forgot to bring things when requested and had to be reminded again & lacked common courtesy. One guy barely opened his mouth and talked by pointing fingers. So rude! The food portion size is an absolute joke! Never have I seen such a skinny sized meal. It was insane. I’m a lean guy and even I wasn’t full! The quality of the food in the second service was awful. My rice wasn’t cooked all the way & the bread was clearly stale."
Pros: "The crew was friendly and very attentive."
Cons: "The plan was very hot and made the experience less than desirable."
Pros: "Arrival and departure is on time treatment is excellent very courteous For all category of passenger"
Cons: "South Indian food may. Made available"
Cons: "Did not know what Vegetarian Jain meal should taste like! Even goats and sheep woud not have liked the taste of this special meal. Fortunately, cabin crew member was kind enough to give me a regular Hindu veggie meal rather than my pre-selected Vegetarian Jain meal (VJML) - DO NOT CHOOSE VJML on Qatar, unless you wanna faint from the horrible food! The tray was dirty! Co-passengers in the row behind me were also complaining The audio lead of my headphone would not go into the outlet in the seat armrest! So I had to use audio from neighboring (empty) seat and sync it with video from screen for my seat. What a pain!"
Cons: "The boarding process was strange, with one guy directing several different zones to stand in line, people not cooperating and just overrall not very organized."
Pros: "Good attentiveness from crew, food was fine. Entertainment was good."
Cons: "Boeing 787 was uncomfortable on the trip to Doha - hard seat cushions and little legroom. 777 much more comfortable on the leg to USA."
Cons: "Hi I travelled on 7/16 from Philadelphia to Cairo through the Jordanian airline . Unfortunately the luggages didn't reach to Cairo airport with me . 3 days later they told me that the luggages in Jordan and I have to travel from Alexandria city to Cairo to receive my luggages . When I went their , I found my luggages were opened and missing much items . I made reports on the airport. The employees in the airport they wondered why the opened the selling box , and the box looks empty. The weight for this box was 32 kilograms in the time of shipping. And I paid $400 for extra weight . But when I received it was like 20 kilograms. Plus I paid $350 for Qater airline for shipping 3 luggage . That's means I paid $750 for shipping 3 luggages and I received it looks empty . I need refund for all shipping and $5000 for damages items , or I will complain this airlines through the American court . Thank you"
Pros: "Great take off and landing. Nice comfort packet, blanket, and pillow Good service and spacious seating in economy class."
Pros: "First time I got ice cream on a plane"
Cons: "Low calorie meals were horrible."
Pros: "We were late for our originally flight, got to LAX 15 minutes after check-in was closed, although we checked in online prior, but due to 4th of July weekend the freeway was very heavy traffic. So we ended up going back next day with the supervisor's incredible allowance, offer. I got very emotional when she told us our option. Thank you. Unfortunatley I didn't get her name, due to our shock))"
Cons: "15 hours flight no WiFi...!!!!!! Last minute flight time change was sent via email..!!!! Almost 1 hour delay after boarding..!!!"
Pros: "Good service all the way to final destination. A+ service. Newer model airplane."
Pros: "Great service and food"
Pros: "The plane number one is very good but the onther one to cairo is good not like the first"
Cons: "When I checked my two bags, I was told to pick them up in Doha and recheck them to my final destination at Rwanda. When I arrived in Doha I was told by the transfer desk that I did not need to pick up my bags because they had been checked to my final destination. I even asked them to pull up my flight information and to confirm that, which they did. However, when I arrived in Kigali, Rwanda, my bags were no where to be found. No one has found them yet. I also called Qatar Air before my flight and asked about hotel accommodations for my layover because my layover was from 6:00 pm to 7 am. When I called, I was told that I would be given a complimentary hotel room because of the length of the layover. However, when I arrived I was told that I did not qualify for the hotel accommodation. Then, I was told that a hotel room would cost 250. When i arrived at the hotel, I was told the cheapest was 325."
Cons: "The airport did not have air conditioning, which was very annoying given the temperature outside was 30C."
Pros: "Seat arrangements excellent Crews nice"
Cons: "Very disappointed about quality and frequently of food offered"
"There was an enormous line at LAX trying to check in and check bags. Fortunately the staff were accommodating and allowed us to check our bags even after the deadline had passed -- but it was definitely an extremely stressful experience!"
"We flew First Class to LA from Denver on the Delta-branded contract airline - Sky West. On the way back, we flew First Class on a Delta Airlines owned jet, and the experience was so much better. The flights should have been comparable; but unfortunately cost-cutting by Sky West was evident."
"The terminal on my ticket was different than the gate number. We went through security and had to take a 15 min shuttle to a different terminal. Why not just go through security there? There were also no attendants at the gate to discuss seat assignments. My husband and I didn’t have seats together. Try on board crew was great, but the airport experience was lacking."
Cons: "More arm space and leg room for cabin"
Cons: "The check in process for Delta was a chaotic mess. There was no one to assist passengers, lines were crazy long. I overheard so many people complaining about missing flights and they could not get any help. I also think the amount Delta charges for luggage was insane."
Pros: "The entertainment"
Cons: "The boarding"
Pros: "The crew."
Cons: "Nothing was mediocre about the crew or delta. The other passengers around us made a 4 1/2 hour flight feel like 8 hours of hell."
Pros: "The crew did a good job in announcing the arrival of the flight and where we are at and how far we are flying overall did an excellent job"
Cons: "If they had orange juice lol"
Pros: "The crew was amazing"
Cons: "The plane change in LA was confusing & not very clear."
Pros: "Excellent crew."
Cons: "Gate agents were a little snippy."
Pros: "The crew was helpful"
Cons: "The flight arrived at MEX on time, but for reasons I don’t know, we could not exit the plane for an hour after arriving at the gate. This hour delay caused me to miss my next flight to Puerto Escondido, Mexico on Viva Aerobus. I had to stay the night in Mexico City because it was the last flight leaving that night, and I had to purchase a new flight to Puerto Escondido."
Pros: "Friendly crew"
Pros: "Friendly crew"
Pros: "Crew was great!"
Cons: "Airline was operated by Delta Air. COVID precautions with distancing on board were not followed. Flight was overcrowded- hardly any empty seats between passengers."
Pros: "Easy boarding and very nice crew"
Pros: "Social distancing, purell wipes were handed out, food and water handed out in a baggy."
Cons: "everything was great. I love delta."
Pros: "Not really"
Cons: "Being on time not delay 40 min"
Pros: "Loved it all. Thanks for helping me get home to Australia when other airlines couldn't."
Pros: "Comfort and safety"
Pros: "Delta is doing a great job keeping everything calm and clean during this pandemic!"
Pros: "Middle seat was empty"
Pros: "Social distanced seating"
Pros: "crew was exceptionally kind and helpful. I felt they really cleaned up, sanitized, even participated sanitary clothes and hand sanitizer to everyone."
Cons: "Nothing, perfect. better than expected."
Pros: "Delta is the airline to fly if you have to fly (like I did) during a pandemic. They made sure at every turn we felt as safe as possible. They had passengers distanced from each other the whole time, handed out sanitizing wipes as we walked on the plane, made sure folks kept their masks on, gave us individual little baggies with snacks and water bottles that also had individual hand sanitizer packets. I felt so much more safe flying Delta on my way home to Hawaii in July than I did when I flew American Airlines on my way to the mainland in June."
Pros: "There was plenty of space, good entertainment, it boarded fast, took off on time, and had zero issues."
Pros: "Felt safe and sanitary"
Pros: "Arrived in PDX 15-20 minutes early."
Cons: "Social distancing on the seats"
Cons: "connecting flight left without 1/6th of its passengers. Stuck at airport now because of Deltas laziness"
Cons: "Flight wasn't full. I could have been seated somewhere else since passenger next to me was quite large and invading my personal space"
Pros: "Was upgraded to Comfort Plus after they had no seat for me on the plane"
Cons: "We booked with Virgin however flew with Delta and we were not alerted to this. We booked with Virgin for a reason. They also did not have seats for me when I went to check in on both flights and I had to negotiate seats before boarding. Very disappointing."
Cons: "... on top of that I kindly requested to speak with a supervisor and i was denied it. As a customer I deserved that. I would a ticket with Aerolineas and nowhere it said it was delta. I followed the baggage allowance explained on kayak website and on Aerolineas Argentinas. I took a bicycle which is free and i pay $100 to packed it as Aerolineas wanted. When I arrived it was a Delta flight and they told they don't allow bicycles and that i had to play $150. Aerolineas website and kayak clearly says that bicycles were free on my flight. I show the agent my ticket and that no where it said delta to consider what he was saying since it is an alliance but i was not informed about it. He said no and after wait there for a while before boarding i kindly ask to speak with a supervisor and the denied it and disappeared. I request a refund of my fee to you for providing incorrect information."
Cons: "Every thing was excellent"
Pros: "We boarded close to on time, no hassles. Allowed my husband and me (retired military) to board early, thank you."
Cons: "LAX security is awful. We never left the airport (arrived LAX from Sydney AU) yet were forced thru security again. Had to remove shoes, was scanned and "frisked" by TSA to get to Denver. To go to Australia, Denver TSA waived the removal of shoes, skipped the scan for the metal detector and no one touched me, ditto for LAX on the trip to Sydney. Where's the uniformity or standards for TSA?? Why did I have to be subjected to this garbage on the way home?? This is why I despise flying. It makes no sense to me. This ruined what was a great vacation."
Cons: "We had to wait at the customs for nearly 1.5hrs, then pick up our luggage, then check in again!!! We were running and got on the plane 10 mins before the departure. Super stressful!!"
Pros: "The flight was nearly full, but I lucked out. One person in my row did not show up, so myself and the other lady in my row had the benefit of having an open seat in between us. The crew was cheerful and accommodating. They did the normal beverage service, but also brought complimentary water and coffee 3x during the rest of the flight. This was greatly appreciated, especially after 5 days of drinking and partying. My buddies and I spent two and a half days in Las Vegas for a bachelor party followed by two days in the LA area for a wedding (yes we did it Hangover style) :) Thank you Delta!"
Cons: "My only complaint was that the flight was delayed out of LAX by about 30 minutes due to the flight in-bound being delayed. However, the captain made up most of this time in the air so it ended up being a non-issue."
Pros: "Boarding was on time and the process was efficient."
Cons: "The flight attendant could not serve coffee or tea due to "no potable water" onboard! The electric outlets at each of our first class seats were not functional, both the USB ports and the electric plugs did not work so we were not able to charge our phones during the flight. When I mentioned this to the flight attendant her response was that she had not received a report that the electric was not working. No other assistance was offered. There was very little legroom even though these were sold as first class seats. The plane was old and dirty, the armrests were sticky."
Pros: "I liked the fact that were were able to watch movies complementary, staff was very kind and looked good and for the most part the air craft was spacious than United Airlines"
Cons: "I disliked the fact that their weren’t any charging station, I wasn’t able to to charge my telephone device previously but I thought I would be okay sonce air crafts that I have boarded have out lets to charge devices, was an inconviencesince I wasn’t anle to contact family. Also there was complementary movies to watch but there werent any head phones that were given, united aire lines provided us with head phones for entertainment."
Pros: "The attendant was most helpful. Because the flight was not full, she allowed us to sit in the exit row, window and aisle, with no one between. I'm a tall person, so the extra leg room was deeply appreciated. I give her and the airline high marks."
Pros: "Food was ok."
Cons: "Flight attendants could have been a little more friendly and helpful."
Pros: "Had to cross terminals and the pathway was closed due to an international flight landing (poor planning on LAX part) so had to exit and reenter terminal through TSA. Flight delayed an hour then cancelled due to control panel failure. 10pm flight became 12am bus (and originally told it was 11.15pm bus which was "stuck in traffic" when google map traffic was all green). Got back to SD 4 hours after scheduled time."
Pros: "The flight was on time."
Cons: "This was an almost 6 hour long flight, LAX to OGG. The aircraft was older and for a 6 hour flight, they really should use a bigger and newer aircraft. The entertainment systems on the back of the seat worked sporadically and the PA system was too loud and every time the PA system was used while we had our headsets on, it was excruciating We had no warning in order to remove our headsets before it blasted into our ears. We were amazed that after paying a considerable sum for our tickets and being in the air for 6 hours, there was limited meal service and we were required to purchase a sandwich in order to eat. I fly Delta frequently and this was by far the worse flight I can remember."
Cons: "To be clear, I do not have an issue with overweight people. That being said, I was put in an extremely uncomforatable position on this flight. My seatmate was a woman who easily weighed 400 pounds without the slightest exageration and was 5'7 at best. She carried all of her weight in her midsection and behind, which was truly uncomforatable for us both. As she attempted to squeeze into the aisle seat it became apparent that with the armrest down it was not going to happen. She raised the armrest and finally maneuvered into her seat and part of mine also. Not only was her bottom in my seat but her stomach was resting on my entire right leg. It felt like a toddler was sitting on my lap. This was beyond uncomfortable and embarrassing for us both as it was clear that she knew how intrusive this was and kept apologizing. My leg went to sleep after about 15 minutes so I asked to be let out. I approached the flight attendent and requested that my seat be changed to which she responded that the flight was full. I know it wasn't because I could see an empty seat about four rows in front of me. Finally I sat back down but every 15 minutes or so she would get uncomforatable and get up to stretch. The first time it was a welcomed break, until she came back and flopped in her seat with so much force that it felt like someone had ran and jumped in my lap. This occurred 4 or 5 times during the flight. I am not sure what the policy is for obese passengers, but it should be relooked. As a passenger I should not be put in a position to address another passengers weight. I also should not have to pay for a seat and only get to use 2/3 of it. Lastly, no one should ever be allowed to put their body parts on top of another persons lap and that be considered ok."
Pros: "The flight was quick and quiet with a kind crew and captain that had a great smile."
Cons: "I didn't like the food."
Pros: "Crew was very good and nice on the flight"
Cons: "Flight terminal was changed about 30 to 45 minutes before boarding Flight was delayed due to AC problem Configuration of the plane was terrible. Little leg room but the windows did not align with the seats so a window was shared with two rows making it challenging to open or close a window without disturbing the passenger in the other row with whom the window is being shared. No charging outlets in the terminal or on the plane. Plane had no food to offer for purchase. Expected better from Delta."
Pros: "Hassle free left on time arrived early San Jose nice airport and drive to red wood city picturesque Staff friendly and cookies great"
Cons: "On this occasion I actually enjoyed it all"
Pros: "My Delta flight was a code share with Virgin Atlantic. A pleasant flight overall with my first impression being an airline with current popular music playing in the background and flight attendants cheerful. Since I was traveling alone, I opted to not purchase my seat prior to my flight date, instead I chose my aisle seat within 24 hours for free. I checked in my one bag and found out I had pre-checked so my security check went so smooth at the new terminal 2 at LAX. Looking forward to my flight back on June 15."
Cons: "Had a toddler behind me crying and screaming the last 40 minutes of landing into Heathrow because she couldn't sit on her mother's lap and made it quite unbareable for all of us in the vicinity. Wondering if there was an alternative way to handle the situation."
Pros: "crew need to be more polite and kind"
Cons: "just a more kind crew would be great"
Pros: "the crew were not friendly and they were bossy"
Cons: "more kind crew"
Pros: "The crew was very professional and polite.. they did a great job remaining everyone to keep their mask on!!"
Cons: "During the entire trip I couldn’t watch any movies my entertainment was not working"
Pros: "Plane was good,very comfortable clean and new.Entertainment was great.Crew was nice."
Cons: "Food wasn’t good at all, very low quality and it didn’t taste good.And prices for extra language (190$) is way too expensive."
Pros: "Great crew, clean bathrooms, second baggage free"
Cons: "Hot meals and different drinks available like coke or sparkling water, with payment if necessary ."
Pros: "the plan"
Cons: "seevce was bed 10! hour alihhvwiyhb2 snacks"
Pros: "friendly staff"
Cons: "encouraging passengers to do more social distancing at gates"
Pros: "Sits are very comfortable and the food is amazing."
Cons: "The door from the US plane was closed in front of our nose and the staff was extremely rude.In Boston the Turkish Airlines representative from the luggage transfers didn't have a clue what he's doing. It was a complete disaster. So, the 1:10hrs between Cluj and Istambul is not enough for an US flight. You guys must schedule more time so people can get to the US plane on time. The Airline is amazing, good food, good crew, great sits, but please work on this schedule because it's so exhausting to stay an additional 11 hours on the road."
Pros: "Movies and screen"
Cons: "Flight delayed. Crew doesn’t speak good English"
Cons: "The best Airlines ever from every aspects, I’m frequent traveler of Turkish airlines and will be for good."
Cons: "During flight after first meal the cabin temperature is way to cold. Then it gets warmer but later, second half of the flight the air gets very cold again so it’s difficult to have a good sleep."
Pros: "My worst journey."
Cons: "My suitcase was completely soaked from the rain in Istanbul. It must have been left on the tarmac in Istanbul before it was loaded onto the aircraft. I had clothes on the inside that needed to be dried once in Cairo."
Pros: "Crew and food on last leg were acceptable"
Cons: "Every other part of the flying Turkish air experience, particularly Istanbul airport itself. Delayed flights, missed connections, rude, angry staff, worst layout and signage of terminal space. Exhausting."
Pros: "The crew was very attentive and pleasant to all business class passengers . The food and service were excellent and great presentation. Seats were comfortable and great for sleeping ."
Cons: "There wasn’t anything that I can recall that made the trip unpleasant ."
Pros: "The staff went out of their way to make us comfortable as possible"
Pros: "The food, the seats, the in-flight entertainment were all great, like flying used to be. Whenever we have the opportunity to fly their routes we will most certainly do so!"
Pros: "The crew members were really nice"
Cons: "Everything was great"
Cons: "The Crew was on top of passengers requests. I asked three different crew memberrs for paper towels and no one delivered."
Pros: "food was good, and my business class seat was okay."
Cons: "First flight (to Istanbul) delayed, and nobody cared to help with making connecting flight booked on the same Turkish Airlines (THY)! Different THY employees sent me to three (3) different places (with two suitcases in hand) at opposite ends of the huge Istanbul airport before finally pointing to the Business Lounge and causing my missing the connection. Had they directed me correctly and cared about my first delay, I would not have missed it. I lost the first-night pay at the hotel of my final destination, my friends lost their time and money on making trips to pick me up, my ailing relatives were in pieces worrying about me, and so on. In sum, a fun trip (NOT!) ... If you care for some details, here you go... They did not inform their own connecting flight about my delay. Despite issuing me a boarding pass, nobody was looking for me or announcing where I should go. I spent an hour running around the airport at THY employees' misdirections. Business Lounge revealed I was already issued a ticket for next morning's flight (without informing me via my email they had or otherwise). I then looked at their own monitor and saw a much earlier flight the same night on a partner airline. I had to point to that flight, and they issued me a ticket there. No apology, no offer of any compensation. I understand that flights may delay, and I could forgive an honest mistake in misdirection. But this was a wide-spread incompetence and utter unwillingness to help their own business class (!) customer. I can only imagine what pains the economy travelers had to endure! Just to give you a flavor, after realizing that my connecting flight was boarding (when my delayed first flight arrived in Istanbul), I asked the crew to direct me to the best route to my connection. They pointed to the gate personnel. The gate personnel who greeted us DID NOT KNOW about my connection and sent me to the opposite side of the airport without notifying the connecting flight to wait for me. No help/transport was offered. When I made my way to the connecting gate with my luggage, the flight was gone. Nobody to be found from THY around the gate. A neighboring THY gate's employee directed me to the "Care Point" desk far away. A sizable line emerged there, with only two agents working it. I asked one of them if business class was served there. They said, "Yes, get in line, please". After 30 minutes in that line, I approached a "Care Point" agent (a cruel name for no-care-whatsoever service) who told me "You need to go to the business class desk upstairs. Economy only here!" No apology, no expression of concern, yelling "Next!" when I told her that I wasted 30 minutes of valuable time in line at their direction and would appreciate her doing something to help or making sure I reach the right person. Off to the "business desk" I go... another 15-min. run in a different direction with luggage in hand. That desk could not help either...ARGHH. Do I need to continue?.."
Pros: "The Turkish Airlines flight attendants are some of the sweetest people you can meet. Good souls and extremely dedicated to customer service."
Cons: "First, the Boeing Executives need to be punished by having to fly in the Economy section of their airplanes. Second, Turkish Airlines (a wonderful company) must impose hygiene requirements for their passengers. I sat next to a man that had insane body odor and when I let the Flight Attendant know she kindly reseated me... It was great until I saw the poor woman who took my place ALSO asked to be reseated due to the man's smell! Unfortunately, I was reseated in the middle of the row, which apparently is by Boeing design, none of the middle seats recline. Who makes an aircraft that handles long (13 hour) hauls with seats that do not recline and are too narrow for the average adult? It was such a painful and uncomfortable 13 hour flight. To add insult to injury, the plane was delayed and I missed my connection and had to sit in Istanbul airport for almost 8 hours."
Pros: "Everything was great"
Cons: "Increase entertainment options but it was still great just need more latest music"
Pros: "Asian Vegetarian meal was good."
Cons: "Seats with less leg room . No WIfi facility at the gate ."
Pros: "Hello the service was excellent"
Pros: "The service was good. And the staff were friendly."
Pros: "Easy boarding I didn’t have check in bags so it was really quick and easy.seat was okay"
Cons: "The crew were not professional at all.missing serving people,some would get a snack or been asked what to drink and some got skipped. There were not enough food."
Pros: "there are a lot of movie"
Cons: "The people smell very bad !!"
Pros: "Well I liked the fact I didn’t have stop. It was nice to have direct flight"
Cons: "I didn’t like the seat it was all the way in the back 48c And the I asked at check if I could have a seat in the front but the check in personal rudely said no flight is booked, there were people that got ticket way later than me had the seat up front."
Pros: "Film selection, boarding process, amenities bag"
Cons: "Dessert very boring. Legspace seemed smaller than last experience on TK"
Cons: "Too dirty and service is very slow!"
Pros: "мне нравится все кроме того что заранее до выхода в Стамбул неизвестен номер gate для полёта в в Одессу. В результате большая нервозность и много времени тратится на поиск этого номера, а потом -- бег чтобы успеть достигнуть место посадки вовремя."
Pros: "awesome flight awesome food"
Pros: "Top notch service on the airplane"
Pros: "The food"
Cons: "Was late"
Pros: "The crew was friendly and helpful. They were in the cabin often offering complimentary food and beverages. The seats were spacious even for my husband who is 6'1". There were many complimentary viewing options on the television as well."
Cons: "The lateness of flights"
Pros: "The service and food was excellent. The entertainment choices was amazing. They gave me two decent-sized bottles of wine without charging me."
Cons: "They give you very little leg room. The seat in front of you touches your knees. After 8 hours in the same position it feels like you are stuck in a coffin or a primatial medieval torture device. The seat begins to hurt your back. You can't get in a comfortable position. You can't turn left or right. There's a little foot rest that gives you 10 minutes of relief but then that gets uncomfortable. If one of the people seated in with the inner row needs to use the restroom then the whole row needs to get up. It's cruel and unusual punishment. The airline just needs to expand the rows by 6 inches. Before you go bring a neck pillow and a butt cushion. Or better yet, pick a seat located in a front section that gives you more leg room. If you have the option then this should be a higher priority over a window seat. You will thank me for this advice."
Cons: "Flight was delayed but that wasn't the main problem. Went to the wrong gate for my connecting flight, Turkish air rep at the gate checked my boarding pass, didn't say a word about me being at the wrong gate. Tgere was no announcement of any kind (found out later, Turkish sir doesn't do announcement at the Istanbul airport. No clue as to why). Thought, tgere was another delay and by the time I asked, it was too late to catch my flight and that's when I got a full dose of every single person w Turkish air trying to stiff me with the most outrageous penalty for changing Nguyen my ticket. Started out at $1114 on a $758 ticket, then went down to $925 and if I stay over night, down to $750. Seriously? Rude, talking down at me and telling me that if I don't pay the penalty, my return ticket will be cancelled. I keep getting bounced from one person to another being told to wait here and wait there then I finally got so sick of all of it, bought a new connecting flight online, spending the night in Istanbul and will see what will happen w my return flight to the US. I call this 'theft' as, if i buy an entire new ticket from Istanbul to Cairo then back to the US online, it will cost me less than the penalty they're trying to get me to pay. Shame on you Turkish airline!! You'd think w all the issues they're having w tourism in their country these days they'd care about not doing this kind of mistreatment of their clients."
Pros: "The window seat"
Pros: "Food, manner, lounge in Istanbul"
Cons: "slight delay on the outgoing leg"
Pros: "Better planes"
Cons: "Very small chairs. Terrible boarding system"
Cons: "We stayed on plane for long time before it took off, and we arrived late, food was not good"
Pros: "Getting off the plane, getting on the plane"
Cons: "The inhumane incarceration that was the overnight layover. I had no idea it would be so awful and regret having booked with Turkish Airlines"
Pros: "Very professional airline"
Cons: "The Tray table on my seat on Istanbul - Cairo (16A) was broken I could not eat my meal without two cushions ,in order to replace the table!"
Pros: "Must and entertainment, and legroom."
Cons: "Turkish airline randomly changed my seat assignments without any explanation to me. I also found out my connect flight was changed to much later and one causing me an eight hour delay and assemble airport. Again this was done without my knowledge I happen to randomly find out at the check-in station in Los Angeles. The manager was kind enough to switch me back to my old flight and seat assignments but it took an hour waiting. After boarding the plane it was an hour and a half delay intake off I also realized this my original seats were given to three ladies who are friends of the first class flight attendants there were no children or elderly this was a random acts of favoritism towards the flight attendants after boarding the plane it was an hour and a half delay intake off I also realized this my original seats were given to three ladies who are friends of the first class flight attendants there were no children or elderly this was a random acts of favoritism towards the flight attendants trance friends. As a result of the irresponsible delay at the airport and the pilot not bothering to make up the time when we arrive to sample I realized we had missed her flight despite the promises that they will wait it was the most horrible experience. Rest of the passengers and I were waiting at the connecting gate with the gate number the flight number and the sign saying now boarding but there was no plane no one could give us an explanation of what happened. I will never fly Turkish again"
Pros: "We left los angeles an hour late but was able to make the connection. Enjoyed the food and service. Fortunately the seat next to me was empty so I was able to spread out a bit and get some much needed sleep."
"I missed the flight!!!! , they left me !"
Pros: "The crew was awsome"
Cons: "The food"
Pros: "The aircraft (operating the route due to the COVID-19 shortage in traffic between the two cities) was extremely nice and quite/comfortable. The service was better than expected, as I didn't expect food to be served on dishes like it was during the pandemic. But it was amazing!"
Cons: "The crew didn't have their masks on sometimes when coming back into the cabin as they simply forgot (the new norm is hard to get used to) so maybe the airline can stress the mandatory use of face masks at ALL times. Furthermore, for my comfort of the flight (with COVID) the FA's should use gloves"
Pros: "The Food and Service was good."
Cons: "All good!"
Pros: "I was not allowed to board the flight."
Cons: "Consistency of communication online and at the airline counter about who is able to fly right now."
Cons: "There was a dilay"
Cons: "Very little legroom."
Cons: "Everything was super. Really"
Cons: "I was charged $60.00 for luggage"
Cons: "Better food"
Pros: "The bus was one of the most comfortable international flights I have ever been on."
Cons: "Somehow, our luggage never made it to Rome, despite a nearly four hour layover in Munich. Disappointing."
Pros: "Crew were very friendly and welcoming. I was in economy, and I am a big person but the seats were comfortable."
Cons: "Instead of saying what could have been better, I want to praise the excellent wheel chair service at Munich airport. She went above and beyond, helped us find an alternatively connection after we missed ours and while reassuring us about the solutions. She was First Class service. Thank you."
Pros: "Not much compare to other airlines"
Pros: "The crew was kind and attentive. The food and complementary drinks were satisfactory. There were many movie and television options."
Cons: "The lady next to me got into an argument and no one intervened to defuse it. Not sure what protocol is there. The seats reclined too far into my personal space making me feel uncomfortable."
Cons: "Los Angeles to Frankfurt on an A380 was great. Flight to Tel Aviv was good. But trying to navigate around Frankfurt was very difficult."
Cons: "Female flight attendant was rude and unprofessional."
Pros: "Crew, connections with other flights, entertainment"
Cons: "Lufthansa has always had great food quality but with this flight it was dissapointig."
Pros: "Great movie choices . Flight on time, comfortable. No turbulence, smooth."
Cons: "I did not like the food … I’m allergic to dairy so I can’t have cheese or cream in pasta or milk in polenta with beef stew. So there wasn’t anything for me to eat. Plus the crew should tell you what kind of pasta you’re getting! I got the pasta but I didn’t know it was filled with cheese and cream but by the time they came back to me I told them that I can’t have this they didn’t have anymore left of anything so I didn’t have anything to eat. And the breakfast the next day was awful. And by the way I saw that the crew had a really good meal. I should be able to pick up meal ahead of time… When you’re booking. It was a long day with no hot meal."
Pros: "The crew onboard the flight was very friendly and accommodating! They did their best with what they had. I also like that there were diabetic and vegetarian meals offered, although the diabetic meals should ideally focus on lower carbohydrate totals. Fruits and breads can pack just as much sugar as sweets."
Cons: "Starting with the boarding area at LAX, there was some really high pitched siren that kept going off over and over which no one seemed to care to investigate or do anything about. It was very irritating, and seemed to put lots of passengers in a bad mood before the plane even started boarding. Then when they announced boarding was beginning, everyone got up and created massed around creating four chaotic lines. It was a mess. We left 45 min late, which caused us to run to make our connecting flight because the person at the gate never told us it was also going to be leaving late. The plane itself was extremely uncomfortable as well. I'm 5'8" tall and that's mostly torso. I fit easily in the back seat of my buddy's mini Cooper, and I could barely fit in the space without my legs hitting the seat in front of me. That was before the guy in front of me put his seat back and made it so I could barely reach under my seat. Then there was the control panel for my personal video monitor. The panel was located on the armrest in just the right spot where Everytime I put my hand down I accidentally pressed a button to call the flight attendant, or turn the video screen on off, which was really obnoxious when I was trying to sleep and kept accidentally turning on the bright screen which woke me up. The video monitors we're also touch compatible, but the screen was horrible about registering finger presses which led to the lady in the seat behind me smashing the screen as hard as she could repeatedly with her finger, which vibrated all the was through my headrest so I could feel it as if she were trying to get my attention. There was also no air flow above the seats... You simply had to rely on the flight attendant to set a temperature that the whole cabin enjoyed, or you had to suffer silently. Finally, the reading lights on the plane we're so high up that turning one on lit up all the seats around you as well, which meant you had to choose to either sit in the dark and not read, or turn on your light and read quietly while the people around you cursed your name while attempting to get some rest."
Pros: "Food was good. The flight left on time. There were so many movie options."
Cons: "There were a few crew members who clearly shouldn't be working in a customer service industry. I understand it's not an easy job but many other crew members were quite bubbly and kind."
Pros: "I liked the interior of the cabin and the crew was professional. Crew on this flight was Ok."
Cons: "Food was not good, but I really do not care too much about that... If you judge an airline based on the then fly someone else..."
Pros: "everything about this airline always amazing. Great service well thought out, friendly staff, everything happened as it was supposed to and I felt very cared for."
Cons: "it was all great and professional."
Pros: "Great Service from the crew!"
Pros: "Service on board was good."
Cons: "The walk to the connecting flight was too long and took a lot of time."
Pros: "Service was efficient and non invasive."
Cons: "We had to land in Bari, due to weather, and the airline initially wanted to take us back to Munich for the night and return to Naples in the morning. They ultimately opted to drive us down to Naples but didn’t arrive at that decision until we’d been on the ground for quite a while."
Pros: "Great Seats / Bedding Excellent Drinks Excellent Service Delicious Food."
Cons: "Boarding was a Zoo. No real First Class announcement; confusion of which line was Business, First, or Economy, no clear announcements. This is the 2nd time this is happened in a row. Not sure why. Movie Choices were pretty poor, but TV series made up for it."
Pros: "The boarding process was orderly, the seats comfortable, plenty of luggage space, excellent food -- one of the best economy class flights I've taken."
Pros: "Not a thing"
Cons: "Bad seats in premium economy. Rude staff."
Pros: "The food,Entertainment,was good boarding was awfull changed the terminal 2 times 55-60 min late, one of the crew member was rude."
Cons: "I assigned seats for me and my daughter but they separated us in both legs. That's not good"
Pros: "Boarding procedure: well organized Crew: very polite and supportive Seat comfort: good Extra bottles of water very good idea Selection of magazines: good"
Cons: "Blankets too small, material only mediocre Food: rather mediocre (not very tasty); limited choices; poor quality Entertainment: audio and video selection needs to be improved; not was I was looking for; movies too old"
Pros: "The food and service"
Cons: "I don't have my luggage yet!"
Pros: "We landed safely and weren't too delayed."
Cons: "Food has not been good."
Pros: "Flight crew was friendly."
Cons: "There was at least 4 hours' delay in getting to St. Petersburg, due to the storm, and there was hardly any food or water served while waiting."
Pros: "I like the flight from LAX to Frankfurt. Everything was comfortable and great service"
Cons: "The flight from Frankfurt to TLV was a joke. I paid a big a business class ticket. The business class was the same seats as coach the only thing is they have nobody sit next to you on a middle seat . That was not a comfortable seat. That was not a business size seat .very uncomfortable . No entertainment I will never fly with Lufthansa to Israel again I'm top of everything One of my surfboards got damaged badly and I have to file a claim in the airport. Very disappointed"
Pros: "The flight left late and arrived late. I had ordered a wheelchair, for me. At the gate there were two of them for about 20 people. The people (personell) Spoke amost no English and only poor German. I was told to WALK, because no chair was avaailable or would arrive in due time. ABSOLUTE CHAOS: The 45 minutes delay at landing did not enhance things -- missed my connecting train. Dr, W. Hartwig"
Pros: "This was one of the most aggravating flights. I had a connection. Both flights were delayed and i had to run through the enormous frankfurt with my carry on cat. When i got to the next flight it was delayed 30mins and there were little updates. When i arrived in oslo i was late and so missed my connecting train. I had to wait 6 hours in the station for the next train. An exhausting and frustrating experience. There was one helpful steward on the lax frankfurt flight but the rest of the staff was not helpful."
Pros: "Selection of movies in the entertainment section. Food"
Pros: "Online check in is efficient, staff both at the airport and on board are friendly and helpful. Seats (economy) are OK. Onboard entertainment is good (good choice of films, TV shows and games)"
Cons: "Food - as usual airline food is mostly inedible and unappealing. I usually eat at the airport before the flight and skip the meal onboard."
Pros: "The purser was very nice and professional, especially when some other crew members sometimes were not. Food was good and the seats were a bit less tight and narrow than in some other airlines."
Cons: "Our toddler kept pushing the call button, which was very hard to prevent. A first crew member told us to stop it without telling us how - which is quite difficult. Only the purser later helped us to find a solution by gluing something over it."
Cons: "If You want to change anything about Your ticket, You need to call call centar which You can't get a hold at least for 20 minutes, personel at the booking department is extremely unfriedly (that was a shock because this is a business of service), my suitcase was broken"
Cons: "Very annoying person next to me. I know that wasn't team's fault but she made my flight terrible."
Pros: "Lunch was really good..yet,bread needs to be warm it adds desired comfort during the long flight."
Cons: "Breakfast need to include something else ,not just eggs. There should be an alternative for those who are allergic to eggs ,like me. Couple of hot wheat pancakes with Apple sause would do."
Pros: "Entertainment, comfort"
Cons: "Food was not good. Too salty."
Pros: "Despite the tight connection we made the flight to barcelona, a special work around bus was used - very effective."
Cons: "Flight was delayed in take off due to weather and arrived late making connection to barcelona tight. Audio visual system on flight was poorly responsive"
Pros: "The flight itself was great... A bit of turbulence, but otherwise quite comfortable. Crew and captain were excellent."
Cons: "The plane arrived 2 hours late, causing me to miss a train from Marseille to Nîmes, and costing me money for an extra night's hotel that I hadn't planned (Marseille), plus wasting money for the night at the hotel that I HAD planned (Nîmes), plus the cost of having to purchase an additional train ticket for the following morning. The $7 voucher at the airport was nice, but honestly doesn't come close to making up for the cost and inconvenience."
Cons: "We booked our group of four with Lufthansa, paying $300 more than equivalent flights on competing airlines, specifically because our 20 month old daughter fits within Lufthansa's age, height, and weight limits for using the bassinet. We have reserved our tickets and the bassinet over two months in advance, paying $35 extra per seat for these reservations, and even got an email that specifically stated "bassinet confirmed". On the flight, when it came time to install the bassinets, the flight attendant came to us, took a look at our daughter, and said that she will not fit in the bassinet, that she is too tall, and too heavy, and suggested that we should have checked the limits for the bassinet before coming on the flight. When we inquired as to the actual limits, she could not provide any numbers, only said that she could see that our daughter is too big for it. When the family next to us got their bassinet, it became very obvious that our daughter would fit in the bassinet, and we pointed out that she was well below the height and weight limits published on the Lufthansa website. Only then did the flight attendant admit that there were other babies on the flight, and they only had four bassinets on the plane, despite having 11 slots where bassinets could be installed. Our reservation months in advance did not matter - we did not get the bassinet. As compensation, we were offered some Lufthansa miles, or 50 euros for in-flight duty free shopping. However, we lost close to 1000 dollars as a group when we chose to fly Lufthansa rather than a less expensive airline. We were very uncomfortable throughout the flight, having to hold my daughter in my arms for over five hours. We are are still very upset that the crew blatantly lied to us."
Pros: "Entertainment center was nice ."
Cons: "Didn't get the seat I booked / didn't get the food I ordered 2 weeks in advance ."
Pros: "Overall okay. Glad to have made it on time."
Cons: "I was standing at the gate to enter the security check in forever."
Pros: "Crew was great, on time flight, clean plane."
Cons: "Entertainments options were shockingly few. Honestly have not been on a plane recently with so few and limited options of TV series and movies. I was extremely surprised. Wish I had know and I would’ve had more options for my family."
Cons: "Free wifi"
Pros: "The plane size & comfort was excellent. The staff were very friendly"
Cons: "Boarding at Florence is always chaotic but this isn't within the control of KLM or their crew."
Pros: "A flight was delayed due to weather conditions and we had to sit in the plane for almost an hour, BUT information sharing from the Capitan was sufficient and on-time. Very good job from pilots. Leg room in economy - I was positively surprised, very decent leg room! Thank you for providing it."
Cons: "I flew economy and all was good and appropriate to the level."
Pros: "15 years ago I told myself not to fly Delta anymore. But these 2 flights Detroit to Amsterdam and back changed my mind. I enjoyed the flight very much and I'm looking forward to the next one."
Cons: "I paid for the preferred seat .and i found that people beside me didnt pay anything when i asked them ,"
Pros: "Fast boarding"
Cons: "Slow in refuelling, got us delayed for 40-"
Pros: "Pleasant crew. Appropriate and efficiently served snack."
Cons: "Boarding and disembarkation were slow."
Pros: "The pilot and the crews were helpful about the transit. Pilot make up a lot of time."
Cons: "Flight was delayed, had to run to my next connection flight."
Cons: "Seats in economy section are very close together . There is not enough room for knees...especially for such a long trip."
Cons: "Crew members in Amsterdam were very rude and disrespectful"
Pros: "Food and service"
Cons: "Working wifi would be good. Better A/C. More comfortable seats"
Cons: "Travelled business class and was ace experience"
Pros: "Checkin 1a at Schiphol had long lines, and no seperate counters for just bag drop. My family and I had to wait for 50 mins, to do a bag drop which in,y lasted 1 min! Flight was delayed, without proper announcements."
Cons: "Seat pitch could've been more. At least let us know via Whatsapp that the plane is delayed, or at which belt the bags would come out. This basic info was lacking."
Pros: "Good for both."
Cons: "Bigger seats."
Pros: "Crew was great and professional."
Cons: "Entertainment controls were outdated and confusing to operate. There were no charging ports."
Pros: "Cabin Crews was extremely good and hospital. Transfer point staff buggy / wheal Chair was good and second to none."
Cons: "Transfer point needs upgrade."
Pros: "Very personable staff. Food acceptable for airline fare. Ticket price was outstanding."
Cons: "Paid for extra legroom, but very narrow seats not comfortable. Very difficult to sleep. Old plane--could not hear movies and unclear screen. Music sounded OK and choice was good."
Pros: "Nice people and good service"
Cons: "Not much"
Pros: "Light snack and complementary wine"
Cons: "I’ve traveled a lot internationally and this was the WORST flight I’ve ever had to endure. I felt like I was being tortured and didn’t sleep at all and so slept when getting into Amsterdam rather than being able to explore the city. I was out $200 for the Airbnb (could’ve stayed in the airport cheaper) and $200 for a dinner cruise I slept through. NEVER AGAIN"
Cons: "Nothing special"
Pros: "The staff tried to help me when it was evident we would not arrive on time"
Cons: "The connecting flight is too short of a time. We were late out of LAX and I missed my connection and had to sit in airport for 5 hours. Missed my grandson’s third birthday party. Just made me sad as Travelled from far to try to make it."
Pros: "Efficient crew"
Cons: "Long, slow line at check in. Not many new movies or tv shows"
Pros: "The entertainment options were good."
Cons: "The movie selection did not seem extremely varied."
Pros: "Good services!"
Pros: "Sound was broken on my TV set!"
Cons: "Called stewardess twice to assist. No response!"
Cons: "infotainment was down. Lost my luggage the flight was delayed"
Cons: "Delay can occur sometimes but it wiuld be better to be explained its reason and the estimated time for boarding. The customer service at CDG airport was the worst ever and all people standing boarding desk were useless without any mind what they are doing."
Pros: "Food was just fine, movie selection very good"
Cons: "Uncomfortable seat cushions, lights were truned on too early (1.5 hours before flight landed)"
Pros: "The time keeping was very good. We left on time and arrived early on both occasion. Good organisation. Excellent service."
Pros: "Pleasant flight"
Pros: "Just great crew."
Cons: "Not comfortable at all and will not book KLM again."
Pros: "My bagage broke"
Cons: "I paid extra fee for extra bagage which was tv and i paid insurance my tv broke and no one responces for it"
Cons: "Per usual, KLM can't seem to figure out the order of boarding the plane. Should be business - priority - everyone else. Instead they do priority first, and that's usually two-thirds of the passengers. Strange choice of in-flight movies; no accounting for taste, I guess."
Cons: "Our flight was canceled from Amsterdam to Bordeaux and did not receive any direction and had to find alternate flights for ourselves with the personal expense of using our own cell phones. Then our luggage lost for 3 days. Not happy! We ended up flying from Toronto to Paris then to Bordeaux. Lost my upgrade money for seats. Now have to deal with KLM for refund!"
Pros: "Jet airways flight till mumbai"
Cons: "Poor legspace in Klm flight till Amsterdam"
Cons: "Departure 40 mins late. I took this flight 2 weeks ago and it was also delayed."
Pros: "The crew were really helpful since I am a short person in putting my luggage away in the overhead compartment and attentive to everyone's needs. I am a fussy eater and don't really like airplane food but the food was actually really nice. We was given plenty of snacks and drinks in between meals as well. There was plenty of programmes to choose from to keep me entertained."
Cons: "The seats in economy were a little too small for a 12 hour flight"
Cons: "Klm flight has very congested seating Getting information about eticket was pain"
Pros: "quick boarding, responsive Airline stewardess, very polite."
Cons: "temperature control was not good, service was fine, seats were not comfortable. plane need to be cleaner."
Pros: "The service, entertainment, food, the crew, the aircraft were excellent."
Cons: "They put us in a Transavia plane."
Pros: "It's the best flight I could get for such a low price. But don't expect to to get the best and newest planes around but it's still overall a good experience."
Cons: "Quite bummed the plane didn't have wifi / USB"
Pros: "It's the best flight I could get for such a low price. But don't expect to to get the best and newest planes around but it's still overall a good experience."
Cons: "Quite bummed that the flight didn't have wifi / USB):"
Pros: "Flight unpleasant. Ground staff in Marseiile great but gate crew didn't control carry on baggage and many of us could not use overhead bins because of passengers who stowed more than one and often oversized suitcases above, so we and many others had to place carry on suitcases under seat. Attendant on plane totally unhelpful and could have rearranged a few bags to make room but preferred to stay in back of plane and talk. To be fair, rest of flight was pleasant although late due in part to boarding issues."
Cons: "Carry on baggage issues and storage on plane. One aloof and unhelpful member of flight crew."
Cons: "Luggage (being handled by Air France in Basel) was first marked as delayed... nothing of the flight was in the end put on the belt and instead dropped off at Lost and Found. Ridiculous service since this was in no way announced to the people waiting for their suitcase."
Pros: "We really liked the KLM people, from the check in crew to the flight attendants."
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