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Qingdao to New York Flight Information

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Flights Depart from Qingdao
Flight Price $576
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Airports
Origin
Qingdao
$576
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$576
Destination
New York
$671
only
$671
$576
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$576
Newark
$764
only
$764
Wed, Jun 19
TAO
Qingdao
JFK
New York John F Kennedy Intl
31h 25m
Wed, Jun 26
JFK
New York John F Kennedy Intl
TAO
Qingdao
37h 10m
Trip: 8 days
8.3ExcellentShow reviews
Overall 8.3 Excellent
Based on 4,013 reviews
Boarding
8.4
Comfort
8.2
Crew
8.7
Entertainment
8.0
Food
8.1
ICN
SEA
Excellent 9.6

Pros: Crew members were as friendly and helpful as always

Cons: Being disabled doesn't always mean that you get on and as quickly as you would like. We were the first off in SeaTac, but the last to be taken to Passport control.

HKG
ICN
Excellent 9.6

Pros: Food had great options, Crew was very friendly and efficient, toilets were kept clean, organized and stocked the whole trip - much better overall compared to my trip going to HK.

Cons: I wish there were more movie choices available, and that English subtitles were available even when watching a movie in English.

ICN
LAX
Excellent 9.3

Pros: FOOD WAS GREAT

Cons: BOARDING WAS BETTER THAN MANILA BUT STILL NOT GREAT - NEEDS MORE COMMUNICATION

ORD
ICN
Excellent 10.0

Pros: The crew was very friendly and helpful. Food was good. The plane was very clean.

Cons: I have no complaints.

ICN
NRT
Excellent 10.0

Pros: Such a pleasant flight compared to the 3 other flights I had taken on this trip. The crew were friendly and food was delicious!

Sat, Oct 5
TAO
Qingdao
JFK
New York John F Kennedy Intl
17h 50m
Thu, Oct 31
JFK
New York John F Kennedy Intl
TAO
Qingdao
32h 45m
Trip: 27 days
8.7ExcellentShow reviews
Overall 8.7 Excellent
Based on 4,654 reviews
Overall
8.8
Boarding
8.8
Comfort
8.6
Crew
9.1
Entertainment
8.6
Food
8.5
ICN
LAX
Excellent 10.0

Pros: Everything

Cons: Everything was great

ATL
ICN
Excellent 8.0

Pros: Good

Cons: Good job

ORD
ICN
Excellent 8.3

Pros: It seemed noise free but I think that’s because they turned all the lights off as if night time. The flight attendants were helpful when asked and friendly

Cons: The 1st 6 hours I had to keep calling for water as no one came around. More movie options.

MNL
ICN
Excellent 8.0

Pros: Entertaiment

Cons: They should serve variety of. Food

CEB
ICN
Excellent 9.6

Pros: Cleanliness and more leg room

Cons: Serve the coffee/tea with the breakfast/meal not after.

Sun, Oct 6
TAO
Qingdao
JFK
New York John F Kennedy Intl
30h 20m
Wed, Oct 30
JFK
New York John F Kennedy Intl
TAO
Qingdao
21h 55m
Trip: 25 days
6.5GoodShow reviews
Overall 6.5 Good
Based on 6,284 reviews
Overall
6.6
Boarding
6.7
Comfort
6.6
Crew
7.0
Entertainment
6.3
Food
6.1
JFK
PVG
Mediocre 3.0

Pros: nothing. flight was delayed. i have connecting flight but then the plane left i had to stay in a hotel.

Cons: it could be better if my connecting flight waited for me

BKK
PVG
Excellent 9.0

Pros: The cost was very good

Cons: Transfer in Nanjing to Bangkok. Delayed was not good but worse was that we arrived so early we couldn't check in for an hour and couldn't go to business class lounge. Also no transfer hallway. Had to clear immigration just to get on next flight.

PVG
CNX
Okay 4.6

Pros: Crew was friendly

Cons: Please catch up with the rest of the world and offer vegetarian options for your food. The entertainment did not work at all during the flight so not being able to watch a movie or listen to music during the 4 1/2 hours in flight was very annoying.

PVG
LAX
Excellent 8.3

Pros: Overheard storage is good

Cons: Seat cushions could be more comfortable

MNL
PVG
Good 6.6

Cons: None.

Sat, Oct 5
TAO
Qingdao
LGA
New York LaGuardia
33h 26m
Thu, Oct 31
LGA
New York LaGuardia
TAO
Qingdao
29h 45m
Trip: 27 days
7.9GoodShow reviews
Overall 7.9 Good
Based on 25,299 reviews
Overall
8.1
Boarding
8.2
Comfort
7.8
Crew
8.5
Entertainment
7.7
Food
7.5
CID
MSP
Excellent 8.0

Cons: It was just the weather. I don't handle turbulence well. Delta crew was amazing as always.

ICN
DTW
Excellent 8.6

Pros: Boarding: c'mon...too many groups and subgroups. Radiculous!

Cons: STOP the non-sense of so many boarding goups. What happened to Common Sense boarding? Ill and needing add'l medical help, First Class, Plus Class, then General Boarding. Give me a Break with all the other subgoups for Delta, all B. S. !!

SFO
SEA
Good 6.6

Cons: Connection at Schiphol often tricky;

FCA
SLC
Excellent 10.0

Pros: Crew was very sweet

ATL
MEX
Excellent 10.0

Pros: Great and faster

Sat, Aug 31
TAO
Qingdao
EWR
Newark
26h 05m
Mon, Sep 23
EWR
Newark
TAO
Qingdao
23h 40m
$1044
Trip: 24 days
8.0ExcellentShow reviews
Overall 8.0 Excellent
Based on 5,844 reviews
Overall
8.1
Boarding
8.1
Comfort
7.9
Crew
8.4
Entertainment
8.2
Food
7.7
HKG
CNS
Excellent 9.6

Pros: The dinner was one of the top two I've ever had on a plane and I've flown business class around the world.

Cons: I just don't fit comfortably into the pods and for a 14 hour flight that's a pain in the neck or lower. The seatbelts must be adjustable to allow a pod user to roll on his side.

HKG
SIN
Excellent 8.0

Pros: The crew was understanding of our situation. We had a layover in Hong Kong and they moved us to the front in hopes that we will get out quicker to make the next flight.

Cons: It wasn’t the airline fault that we were delayed nothing else could have been done

LAX
HKG
Good 7.0

Pros: I liked the comfort of my location and seat

Cons: No wifi on a over 14 hour flight is ridiculous in this day and age. They didn't have wifi on both my flights. I would think twice before flying an airline so far without wifi.

HKG
ICN
Excellent 10.0

Pros: Crew, food, entertainment were all very nice. 5 out 5.

JFK
HKG
Okay 5.0

Pros: No

Cons: Food and Crew

Thu, Jul 25
TAO
Qingdao
JFK
New York John F Kennedy Intl
26h 40m
Thu, Aug 1
JFK
New York John F Kennedy Intl
TAO
Qingdao
24h 35m
$1162
Trip: 8 days
7.1GoodShow reviews
Overall 7.1 Good
Based on 5,342 reviews
Overall
7.2
Boarding
7.3
Comfort
7.1
Crew
7.6
Entertainment
6.9
Food
6.8
LAX
CAN
Okay 5.3

Pros: A380 plane so it was quiet and comfortable

Cons: 1. Great difficulty selecting seats ahead of time 2. In flight entertainment system limited and poorly organized 3. No power or usb connection 4. Food was not very good - even by airplane standard

LAX
CAN
Excellent 9.2

Pros: Pleasantly surprised. Seats were comfortable. Blankets were warm. Food was good, and I'm grateful for that because I couldn't understand the flight attendant because of her accent.

Cons: The crew was weirdly OCD about when we were allowed to have our window shades up or down and I got yelled at a couple times for improper window shade use. I was also woken up literally every 2 hours to ask if I wanted food or beverage which I appreciated the diligence but also I like sleep.

LAX
CAN
Excellent 8.6

Pros: Amazing service

Cons: The comfort of the seats and size

SZX
PEK
Good 7.3

Pros: Friendly crew, minimal English skills, just enough for business. Food was good

Cons: seats were a bit hard

CAN
YVR
Good 7.6

Cons: Unfortunately we ended up waiting in the plane on the tarmac for 3 hours before taking off due to extreme rainfall. So everyone was antsy/uncomfortable before even taking off for the long flight.

Sun, Jun 23
TAO
Qingdao
JFK
New York John F Kennedy Intl
33h 45m
Wed, Jul 10
JFK
New York John F Kennedy Intl
TAO
Qingdao
40h 10m
$1227
Trip: 18 days
7.0GoodShow reviews
Overall 7.0 Good
Based on 534 reviews
Overall
7.0
Boarding
7.2
Comfort
7.1
Crew
7.5
Entertainment
6.7
Food
6.8
MNL
XMN
Excellent 10.0

Pros: The flight is easy to check gave us 23kgs check in luggage 46kgs if u have intl flight. Free hotel with breakfast. Not bad at all.

Cons: They require us to get the luggage and check in again tomorrow.

XMN
LAX
Good 7.6

Pros: Crew was very nice and I was happy to get emergency exit row window seat to make the the long flight more comfortable.

Cons: The food could have definitely been better too many shrimp and fish options even in the morning for breakfast. I was happy there has been a pasta served for dinner otherwise I wouldn’t have eaten the entire flight! Shrimp for breakfast isn’t an option for American folk and the movie selection

TAO
LAX
Good 7.3

Pros: Great airplane (787 Dreamliner), comfortable seats, lots of meals, free beer and wine. Great ticket price!

Cons: The cabin crew did not really understand english. When I asked something, it was clear that they didn't understand. I had to claim my checked bag and recheck it at every flight segment. No ability to select seats unless it was more than 72 hours before departure.

BKK
XMN
Excellent 10.0

Pros: ALL

LAX
XMN
Okay 5.6

Pros: The check in boarding pass is not that nice.

Cons: The boarding pass people need to improve, especially to elderly people.

Fri, Oct 4
TAO
Qingdao
JFK
New York John F Kennedy Intl
17h 50m
Wed, Oct 30
JFK
New York John F Kennedy Intl
TAO
Qingdao
24h 50m
Trip: 27 days
8.7ExcellentShow reviews
Overall 8.7 Excellent
Based on 4,654 reviews
Overall
8.8
Boarding
8.8
Comfort
8.6
Crew
9.1
Entertainment
8.6
Food
8.5
ICN
HKG
Excellent 9.6

Pros: Clean, kind cabin crew & nice meals

Cons: entertainment

HNL
NRT
Excellent 9.3

Pros: Plane in excellent condition. Service outstanding.

Cons: Nothing special about the food, but it's not a big deal. Would fly them again.

PUS
ICN
Excellent 10.0

Pros: Everything was good, excellent. No complaint at all!

Cons: Perfect no further better service, I suppose.

BKK
ICN
Excellent 9.3

Cons: The most leg room of any flight I have been on. Seat comfort was the best. The service was excellent.

ATL
ICN
Excellent 10.0

Pros: awesome service great seats

Cons: 30 some odd hours hotel didnt have shuttle

Sun, Oct 6
TAO
Qingdao
LGA
New York LaGuardia
24h 31m
Thu, Oct 31
LGA
New York LaGuardia
TAO
Qingdao
29h 45m
Trip: 26 days
7.9GoodShow reviews
Overall 7.9 Good
Based on 25,299 reviews
Overall
8.1
Boarding
8.2
Comfort
7.8
Crew
8.5
Entertainment
7.7
Food
7.5
PUJ
JFK
Okay 5.6

Pros: The plane was nice and the entertainment on the flight was great! Flight crew very friendly.

Cons: Our plane was delayed multiple times and we were not provided an explanation as to why. For as expensive as this fare was the fact that Delta was at fault for the delay and did not offer any compensation for that delay is frustrating. A few extra free snacks doesn’t cut it.

FLL
JFK
Excellent 8.0

Pros: Crew was good seat comfortable

Cons: Better snacks

LAS
DTW
Okay 4.3

Cons: Delayed takeoff by an hour because the plane was too heavy. Had to kick 8 passengers off the flight before they would takeoff.

FCA
SLC
Excellent 10.0

Pros: Crew was very sweet

SLC
BTM
Excellent 10.0

Cons: Plane left 4 mins early knowing that passengers were on a delayed flight.

Sat, Oct 5
TAO
Qingdao
JFK
New York John F Kennedy Intl
17h 50m
Wed, Oct 30
JFK
New York John F Kennedy Intl
TAO
Qingdao
20h 55m
Trip: 26 days
8.7ExcellentShow reviews
Overall 8.7 Excellent
Based on 4,654 reviews
Overall
8.8
Boarding
8.8
Comfort
8.6
Crew
9.1
Entertainment
8.6
Food
8.5
ICN
IAD
Excellent 9.6

Pros: Crews are always super well trained.

Cons: Between continental flight need more movies, in my perspective

ICN
HAN
Excellent 10.0

Pros: I love Korean Air

Cons: No complaints!

BKK
ICN
Excellent 9.3

Cons: The most leg room of any flight I have been on. Seat comfort was the best. The service was excellent.

PUS
ICN
Excellent 10.0

Pros: Everything was good, excellent. No complaint at all!

Cons: Perfect no further better service, I suppose.

SFO
ICN
Okay 5.6

Cons: The seat needs more support very uncomfortable

Mon, Jul 22
TAO
Qingdao
EWR
Newark
21h 30m
Sat, Aug 3
EWR
Newark
TAO
Qingdao
37h 45m
$1504
Trip: 13 days
7.1GoodShow reviews
Overall 7.1 Good
Based on 64,115 reviews
Overall
7.3
Boarding
7.4
Comfort
7.0
Crew
7.7
Entertainment
6.5
Food
6.5
IAD
PHX
Excellent 10.0

Pros: Comfort and space

SNA
SFO
Okay 4.6

Cons: Delay killed my travel plans and resulted in a nine hour layover in Munich Germany!

CHS
IAD
Excellent 8.0

Cons: Plane was dirty

GRU
ORD
Good 7.6

Pros: The crew was polite and helpful

Cons: The food was very average

SFO
HNL
Excellent 8.0

Pros: Crew was good, landing was great, entertainment was pretty good selection of movies, good seat space.

Cons: We had to run from gate 60 To gate 89. Jetway was hot while waiting to board.

Fri, Oct 4
TAO
Qingdao
LGA
New York LaGuardia
27h 32m
Thu, Oct 31
LGA
New York LaGuardia
TAO
Qingdao
29h 45m
Trip: 28 days
7.9GoodShow reviews
Overall 7.9 Good
Based on 25,299 reviews
Overall
8.1
Boarding
8.2
Comfort
7.8
Crew
8.5
Entertainment
7.7
Food
7.5
CDG
LAX
Good 6.6

Cons: Again, make sure to note conspicuously that luggage price is not included.

ILM
ATL
Excellent 10.0

Pros: Amazing crew as always

Cons: Wifi on smaller hoppers

MIA
MSP
Good 7.0

Cons: Flight was delayed and we missed our connection. Wondering why all the shuttles were parked and unavailable when you knew there were connection s that were tight.

FCA
SLC
Excellent 10.0

Pros: Crew was very sweet

SEA
BOS
Okay 4.6

Pros: The plane left on time and arrived early.

Cons: Horrible boarding experience. We were not offered a choice of seats when we checked in and had to wait at the gat

Wed, Jun 19
TAO
Qingdao
JFK
New York John F Kennedy Intl
37h 00m
Tue, Jul 16
JFK
New York John F Kennedy Intl
TAO
Qingdao
31h 40m
Trip: 28 days
8.3ExcellentShow reviews
Overall 8.3 Excellent
Based on 4,013 reviews
Boarding
8.4
Comfort
8.2
Crew
8.7
Entertainment
8.0
Food
8.1
ORD
ICN
Excellent 9.3

Pros: Aircraft seats for long haul trips are infinitely more comfortable than those on the cattle cars used for domestic flights. Economy/coach seats aren't fancy, but they are surprisingly comfortable with lots of leg room.

Cons: The aircraft I was on was an older 777-200, and there were, sadly, no charging ports of any sort on the seats. Lavatories have electrical sockets, but don't s in a lav to charge your phone. My advice: have your phone fully charged prior to boarding, and have a fully charged power bank just in case.

HNL
ICN
Excellent 10.0

Cons: None!

NRT
ICN
Excellent 8.0

Pros: economy seats and overhead compartment roomier than most other airlines. food is good.

Cons: low sodium/no added salt food option for people with heart disease.

HNL
ICN
Excellent 9.3

Cons: Staff is great!

ICN
SEA
Excellent 8.0

Cons: A normal flight with good service but at a really good price. I fly 15 or more times a year and would definitely do this one again.

Sat, Jun 22
TAO
Qingdao
EWR
Newark
26h 42m
Mon, Jul 15
EWR
Newark
TAO
Qingdao
27h 35m
Trip: 24 days
7.9GoodShow reviews
Overall 7.9 Good
Based on 25,299 reviews
Overall
8.1
Boarding
8.2
Comfort
7.8
Crew
8.5
Entertainment
7.7
Food
7.5
FLL
JFK
Good 6.3

Pros: The crew and the boarding were good

Cons: No food. Just unhealthy snacks

ATL
CLE
Excellent 10.0

Pros: Everything. Always an excellent and professional experience.

Cons: Nothing

VCE
ATL
Excellent 9.3

Pros: The crew was so nice and funny!

Cons: The food could be better, but I understand ultimately what it is: mass produced. The pretzel bread is good. The chocolate chip cookie is great. The ice cream is great. The lemon and something cheesecake dessert was too lemony for me, but my mother would have loved it.

YYZ
SLC
Okay 4.4

Cons: Plane had to divert from Salt-Lake City due to a storm. My son 17 years old traveling alone once in Salt-Lake City should have been given priority for an overnight stay instead of sleeping on an airport bench! Dinner + Breakfast vouchers would also have been nice compared to the 15$ food voucher...

ATL
TUL
Excellent 10.0

Pros: The crew was great.

Cons: Nothing.

Thu, Jun 20
TAO
Qingdao
JFK
New York John F Kennedy Intl
37h 00m
Tue, Jul 16
JFK
New York John F Kennedy Intl
TAO
Qingdao
31h 40m
Trip: 27 days
8.3ExcellentShow reviews
Overall 8.3 Excellent
Based on 4,013 reviews
Boarding
8.4
Comfort
8.2
Crew
8.7
Entertainment
8.0
Food
8.1
SFO
ICN
Excellent 8.6

Pros: Crew was very helpful and kind.

Cons: Improve entertainment.. more shows with subtitles .

ICN
LAX
Excellent 9.6

Cons: Back support for the seat...but I always bring extra pillow and I’m ok

ICN
ORD
Excellent 9.3

Pros: Crew was great

Cons: Food was okay. But good for what it was

HND
GMP
Excellent 10.0

Pros: The flight was great. Very comfortable chairs. Wonderful lunch. professional service Alex

ICN
ORD
Excellent 9.6

Pros: VERY COMFORTABLE

Thu, Jun 20
TAO
Qingdao
EWR
Newark
34h 45m
Tue, Jul 16
EWR
Newark
TAO
Qingdao
28h 40m
$2010
Trip: 27 days
8.0ExcellentShow reviews
Overall 8.0 Excellent
Based on 25,852 reviews
Overall
8.1
Boarding
8.1
Comfort
7.9
Crew
8.5
Entertainment
7.7
Food
7.7
IAH
FRA
Okay 4.0

Pros: The movies

Cons: Flights being on time. Friendlier staff. They would t have misplaced my luggage.

CTA
MUC
Good 7.6

Pros: The crew was very professional and pleasant. The food was tasty for airplane food.

Cons: The seats were not that comfortable.

LAX
MUC
Excellent 8.6

Pros: Crew was excellent

Cons: Uncomfortable tight seating in economy

FRA
ORD
Good 7.0

Cons: The plane is still on the run way waiting for a gate & I’ll miss my shuttle bus to my next stop. Darn...

MUC
ORD
Good 7.0

Cons: Space is limited even for a small built person. Too crowded considering long the travel time

Wed, Jun 19
TAO
Qingdao
LGA
New York LaGuardia
24h 20m
Fri, Jul 12
LGA
New York LaGuardia
TAO
Qingdao
26h 00m
Trip: 24 days
7.9GoodShow reviews
Overall 7.9 Good
Based on 25,299 reviews
Overall
8.1
Boarding
8.2
Comfort
7.8
Crew
8.5
Entertainment
7.7
Food
7.5
ATL
ILM
Excellent 10.0

Pros: Amazing Crew and had a real airplane to ilm for a change!

FCA
SLC
Excellent 10.0

Pros: Crew was very sweet

SLC
BTM
Excellent 10.0

Cons: Plane left 4 mins early knowing that passengers were on a delayed flight.

SEA
JFK
Excellent 8.0

Pros: The crew was great, very accommodating food selection was nice.

Cons: The cabin temperature was extremely warm

MIA
MSP
Good 7.0

Cons: Flight was delayed and we missed our connection. Wondering why all the shuttles were parked and unavailable when you knew there were connection s that were tight.

Thu, Jun 20
TAO
Qingdao
LGA
New York LaGuardia
28h 19m
Sat, Jul 13
LGA
New York LaGuardia
TAO
Qingdao
27h 10m
Trip: 24 days
7.9GoodShow reviews
Overall 7.9 Good
Based on 25,299 reviews
Overall
8.1
Boarding
8.2
Comfort
7.8
Crew
8.5
Entertainment
7.7
Food
7.5
ATL
MEX
Excellent 10.0

Pros: Great and faster

SFO
SEA
Good 6.6

Cons: Connection at Schiphol often tricky;

JFK
SFO
Excellent 9.0

Cons: More comfortable than I expected for a 6 hour flight. 757 was quite spacious.

SAN
SLC
Excellent 10.0

Pros: Crew was great

Cons: flight was diverted an hour away for refueling because of weather over SLC. But SLC opened before we even landed at Grand Junction, CO. I had 8 mins to run between concourses to catch the next flight. My bags didn’t make the flight and have perishable food items. But it is what it is.

MCI
ATL
Excellent 10.0

Pros: All the attention bestowed upon me

Sun, Sep 1
TAO
Qingdao
JFK
New York John F Kennedy Intl
31h 25m
Tue, Sep 24
JFK
New York John F Kennedy Intl
TAO
Qingdao
31h 40m
Trip: 24 days
8.3ExcellentShow reviews
Overall 8.3 Excellent
Based on 4,013 reviews
Boarding
8.4
Comfort
8.2
Crew
8.7
Entertainment
8.0
Food
8.1
HND
ICN
Mediocre 2.0

Pros: I liked that I was able to get back home.

Cons: Everything. There was no organization when boarding, the crew denied me food when I woke up from my nap. Not foreigner friendly at all. The crew was not attentive and I needed to keep calling them for service. Not mindful that this is a long trip.

ORD
ICN
Excellent 10.0

Pros: The crew was very friendly and helpful. Food was good. The plane was very clean.

Cons: I have no complaints.

LAX
ICN
Excellent 10.0

Pros: Friendly, helpful crew. Great entertainment choices. Comfortable seats. Clean cabin.

Cons: More language choices in both the audio tracks and subtitles.

ICN
FRA
Good 7.0

Cons: The entertainment selection was dated.

ICN
LAX
Excellent 10.0

Pros: crew are amazing. amazing legroom on the airbus. my 5foot 10 inches husband has lots of room. bathroom is clean and smells nice

Wed, Jun 19
TAO
Qingdao
JFK
New York John F Kennedy Intl
23h 15m
Sun, Jul 14
JFK
New York John F Kennedy Intl
TAO
Qingdao
30h 40m
Trip: 26 days
8.7ExcellentShow reviews
Overall 8.7 Excellent
Based on 4,654 reviews
Overall
8.8
Boarding
8.8
Comfort
8.6
Crew
9.1
Entertainment
8.6
Food
8.5
KIX
PUS
Excellent 8.8

Cons: Seats weren’t as comfy or spacious as I would have thought given Korean air Having won best economy liner a few times. No entertainment in seats either.

ICN
NAN
Good 6.0

Pros: Crew and seats were good

Cons: Ordered vegan meal was terrible, hard to eat. Had to go with the regular meal instead to eat something, which was okay, but also not great.

NRT
HNL
Excellent 9.0

Pros: The food is great! The plane is clean. The crew is super nice.

Cons: The seats are uncomfortable, as with any seats in coach with other airlines.

NRT
HNL
Excellent 9.3

Cons: More frequent stops for water or drinks or at least larger cups. .

ICN
ORD
Good 7.0

Cons: Seat lacked good padding, very uncomfortable for 12 hour flight

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